rkumar18
07-17 07:51 PM
Guys, I think we should start another FLOWER campaign for Zoe and the CORE team. What do you think?
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seekerofpeace
08-26 04:45 PM
But how can that be unless we r mistaken about the category EB1 may be.
How can there be RD/NDs of 2008 as far as I remember only 15 or 30 days of July were open for filing I-485 after that dates had retrogressed......
If what u're saying is true...the whole process is as random as possible....
SoP
How can there be RD/NDs of 2008 as far as I remember only 15 or 30 days of July were open for filing I-485 after that dates had retrogressed......
If what u're saying is true...the whole process is as random as possible....
SoP
yabadaba
12-19 08:07 PM
check out this link
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u are already a member if you have an id and correct email address....
guys its only $20...no transaction fees..nothing.
lets make anurakt keep his pledge.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44
u are already a member if you have an id and correct email address....
guys its only $20...no transaction fees..nothing.
lets make anurakt keep his pledge.
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manand24
07-17 08:27 PM
Thank you IV, Thank you IV Core.
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Maverick1
07-11 01:49 PM
I have great respect for Paskal. I found your posts to be level headed all the time. Looks like you took this personally this time. This only shows how frustrating these times are. This whole screwed up process is wrong and unfair. Any type of comparison us useless.
There are many factors that determine whether you applied EB2 or EB3. It is not just what your qualifications are. Some companies and attorneys have predispositions. Some companies are very liberal with their job descriptions and some or not. We all know that.
We can draw this argument to many levels.
Experience VS Master's degree
Indian degree vs US degree
Desi Body shop Vs Jobs in reputed companies
Company policy VS bought out LCs
Reputed Schools Vs So So schools
Fact of the matter is , There is still some challenge still in applying under EB1 (although I see many more EB1s these days than I used to). But we practically blurred the lines between EB2 and EB3. That is why people talk about EB2 VS EB3 not EB1 vs EB3.
There are many more qualified folks under EB3 for variety of reasons (who practically gave up any hope) and also some who were in EB2 that are probably not EB2 by strict interpretation and spirit of EB2.
Bottom line : We all screwed. Some more than others :)
Just my 2 cents :)
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
There are many factors that determine whether you applied EB2 or EB3. It is not just what your qualifications are. Some companies and attorneys have predispositions. Some companies are very liberal with their job descriptions and some or not. We all know that.
We can draw this argument to many levels.
Experience VS Master's degree
Indian degree vs US degree
Desi Body shop Vs Jobs in reputed companies
Company policy VS bought out LCs
Reputed Schools Vs So So schools
Fact of the matter is , There is still some challenge still in applying under EB1 (although I see many more EB1s these days than I used to). But we practically blurred the lines between EB2 and EB3. That is why people talk about EB2 VS EB3 not EB1 vs EB3.
There are many more qualified folks under EB3 for variety of reasons (who practically gave up any hope) and also some who were in EB2 that are probably not EB2 by strict interpretation and spirit of EB2.
Bottom line : We all screwed. Some more than others :)
Just my 2 cents :)
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
pappu
03-09 11:47 AM
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senthil1
08-12 12:02 AM
Eb2 will be better most of the time because many will not be eligible or Job position does not need Masters or 5 years of experience. So it will move fast though it may go back on october. So if possible try to port into EB2 will always be a good idea. CIR or Visa capture bill may not be possible atleast for an year or more. EB1 and EB2 are best bet for next 1 to 2 years.
Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.
Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.
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chanduy9
07-05 04:13 PM
Lets concentrate on Iv action items..This is not an IV endorsed effort.
I respect what IV is doing...sending flowers is not crime or illegal...we are trying to tell our feelings and how much pain we have taken.
We are one short of 50
Thanks,
Chandra.
I respect what IV is doing...sending flowers is not crime or illegal...we are trying to tell our feelings and how much pain we have taken.
We are one short of 50
Thanks,
Chandra.
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GCStatus
09-17 11:33 PM
GCStatus,
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busier and others have all free time. Is that right?
Please post all my e-mails here and tell me where i am rude.. This is getting funnier.
Secret location is like a joke mentioned coz i didnt get response for 4 or 5 e-mails. If you call that rude, dont know what to say.
We would like to pass the baton to you. Its not "my" website. You are free to take it. Kindly let us your a number to reach you and we will start the process.
Thanks,
BTW, no one is telling you the credentials, just letting you know that your rude posting about Admins hiding in a secret place is not appreciated. You cut-past one post, what about your other posts. Do you want me to post them here? Now lets get back to "ownership" and "rudeness" debate because it always turns out that way. You can say anything and if Admin responds, all of a sudden Admin is showing attitude, Admin is rude, freedom of speech, Ist amendment, Admins is dictators, Admins are like Hitler etc etc . Nothing new, we have seen this story repeat countless times.
And one more thing, you are busier and others have all free time. Is that right?
Please post all my e-mails here and tell me where i am rude.. This is getting funnier.
Secret location is like a joke mentioned coz i didnt get response for 4 or 5 e-mails. If you call that rude, dont know what to say.
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akhilmahajan
02-26 01:59 PM
Hi all,
I have been following this thread and some posts suggest that the Observation on the passport for correcting the name is sufficient. Here is my situation:
My passport had the name as:
Surname: A***********
Given name: P****
The correct name should be (since this is how I use it in the US now and it applies to all my docs here - GC, DL, school records, everywhere).
Surname: P****
Given name: A***********
I got this corrected in the Indian passport through an "Observation" on Page 3 which states:
The name of the passport holder appearing on Page 1 has been corrected to read as:
Surname: P****
Given name: A***********
Since this is not a "name change" as such but simply a re-alignment of the last and first names (often a source of confusion from India), I hope this is sufficient and I don't have to go through a name change to get a new passport book issued.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
AP
Her name (First Last) was in the givenname on the passport and had the surname empty.
We went to NY consulate and wanted to add an observation, which they said no and issued her a new passport.
Now she has 2 passports.
I just wanted to ask everyone how does it affect her 485/EAD/AP application.
Thanks.
I have been following this thread and some posts suggest that the Observation on the passport for correcting the name is sufficient. Here is my situation:
My passport had the name as:
Surname: A***********
Given name: P****
The correct name should be (since this is how I use it in the US now and it applies to all my docs here - GC, DL, school records, everywhere).
Surname: P****
Given name: A***********
I got this corrected in the Indian passport through an "Observation" on Page 3 which states:
The name of the passport holder appearing on Page 1 has been corrected to read as:
Surname: P****
Given name: A***********
Since this is not a "name change" as such but simply a re-alignment of the last and first names (often a source of confusion from India), I hope this is sufficient and I don't have to go through a name change to get a new passport book issued.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
AP
Her name (First Last) was in the givenname on the passport and had the surname empty.
We went to NY consulate and wanted to add an observation, which they said no and issued her a new passport.
Now she has 2 passports.
I just wanted to ask everyone how does it affect her 485/EAD/AP application.
Thanks.
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snhn
12-03 04:03 PM
Addendum:
I remember the IO asking my spouse about being a member of a job-related professional association. My spouse used to be a member of such an organization and mentioned so. The IO then remarked that such membership is a requirement for such kind of a job. She then just let it go, however.
You say that she asked you wife about being a member of some orog. Did the IO already knew that per her own investigation or di you guys mentioned that to her prior to her asking abou it.
I remember the IO asking my spouse about being a member of a job-related professional association. My spouse used to be a member of such an organization and mentioned so. The IO then remarked that such membership is a requirement for such kind of a job. She then just let it go, however.
You say that she asked you wife about being a member of some orog. Did the IO already knew that per her own investigation or di you guys mentioned that to her prior to her asking abou it.
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rajuram
03-07 02:05 AM
I would like to contribute $25, but need to find out what information are we getting? I am mainly interested in eb3 india, year 2001
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kumarc123
07-10 01:05 PM
Hello All,
i concur with the aspect of filling a lawsuit, as it will create more visibility and put more pressure on congress. As it is congress is under the gun for failing to act on a lot of bills. Even though if it does not create instant results, it will definitely lead to some type of change in coming months. I am sure if we all pitch in 50$ each, we can accumulate good amount of money. Also we can use Murthy Law firm to file a lawsuit. Lets not forget the amount of visibility Murthy law firm is getting from IV. If there is a law suite filed through them, then they also get to share the limelight.
The point here is, we can get a discounted price on the service, also Murthy law firm is aware of our situation. Administrator what do you think?
All EB3 guys, stop complaining about EB2-EB3, it is about EB community. IF EB2 get some direct benefit, then it will be rolled down to EB3 as well. Please let us not discuss issues which separate us. Right now we should focus on unity and creating a mass number of high skilled workers who can SHOW up on rally's.
Thanks
i concur with the aspect of filling a lawsuit, as it will create more visibility and put more pressure on congress. As it is congress is under the gun for failing to act on a lot of bills. Even though if it does not create instant results, it will definitely lead to some type of change in coming months. I am sure if we all pitch in 50$ each, we can accumulate good amount of money. Also we can use Murthy Law firm to file a lawsuit. Lets not forget the amount of visibility Murthy law firm is getting from IV. If there is a law suite filed through them, then they also get to share the limelight.
The point here is, we can get a discounted price on the service, also Murthy law firm is aware of our situation. Administrator what do you think?
All EB3 guys, stop complaining about EB2-EB3, it is about EB community. IF EB2 get some direct benefit, then it will be rolled down to EB3 as well. Please let us not discuss issues which separate us. Right now we should focus on unity and creating a mass number of high skilled workers who can SHOW up on rally's.
Thanks
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english_august
07-05 11:01 PM
Thousand if not millions of us are affected by DOS's reversal or the visa bulletin, and it would be quite a protest even if 20% of us joined together and raised our voice against this ill-fated system.
Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.
We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.
Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.
We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.
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hianupam
12-19 08:16 AM
I like srikondoji's idea. Infact I had pitched it to Pappu in a pm couple of weeks ago. Lets create a list of members who wish to sign up for bi-monthly contribution by say Dec 31st and publish that list. The first of the bi-monthly contribution from members of the list is due no later than Jan 31st 2007. I am ok with the $25 bi-monthly figure. Sign me up!
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Administrator2
09-18 12:04 AM
madhuvj or GCStatus,
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
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qasleuth
02-25 09:18 AM
In the bad economy if everyone can get EAD it will help more. All we need is an admin fix to allow filing of I485 and get EAD benefits
Desi3933 provided 'proof' that you need a legislative fix to allow filing of 485 when priority date is not current in this thread.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695&referrerid=15623
Again, do start and pursue that effort in a separate thread.
Desi3933 provided 'proof' that you need a legislative fix to allow filing of 485 when priority date is not current in this thread.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695&referrerid=15623
Again, do start and pursue that effort in a separate thread.
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02-25 06:02 PM
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InTheMoment
02-26 12:14 PM
realizeit,
Good proposal and initiative....but few points you should note that others might also have brought out.
1.) Pre-adjudication (process I-485, send RFE etc. just short of visa number allocation)
is already prevalent in USCIS and has been since several years now.
Just google for "pre-adjudication USCIS" ...but this might just suffice:
judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf (judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf)
page 2
How else do you think thousands of visa numbers were assigned and GC's
issued in June 2007?
2.) Lawmakers will be throughly opposed to the idea of a pseudo GC as given in your
proposal, that would be tantamount to diminishing the value of adjusting the status
and visa allocation as it stands in the INA now.
3.) That said...I completely agree that as a baby step USCIS should make the pre-adjudication
transparent to the applicants in the "case status online" to relieve the applicants of
mental agony.
Good proposal and initiative....but few points you should note that others might also have brought out.
1.) Pre-adjudication (process I-485, send RFE etc. just short of visa number allocation)
is already prevalent in USCIS and has been since several years now.
Just google for "pre-adjudication USCIS" ...but this might just suffice:
judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf (judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/USCIS080430.pdf)
page 2
How else do you think thousands of visa numbers were assigned and GC's
issued in June 2007?
2.) Lawmakers will be throughly opposed to the idea of a pseudo GC as given in your
proposal, that would be tantamount to diminishing the value of adjusting the status
and visa allocation as it stands in the INA now.
3.) That said...I completely agree that as a baby step USCIS should make the pre-adjudication
transparent to the applicants in the "case status online" to relieve the applicants of
mental agony.
unitednations
02-05 12:04 AM
Having diversity AND country quota for skilled employment is affirmative action gone waco. EB skilled immigration is to allow businesses to hire foreign labor for jobs they can't find American Citizens. Now to restrict businesses to discriminate based on the country of birth is just riduculous. Next do Universities apply affirmative action to their international student recruitement?
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
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