sugaur
12-07 10:22 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?
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shreekhand
08-11 09:23 PM
Awesome, fantastic! One beautiful post I have seen after a loong time :)
Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)
Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)
Humhongekamyab
08-21 04:54 PM
I don't know if the memo thing is correct or not but I did call NSC using POJ method and I was told not to expect anything before Oct 1st.
I think that was another way of saying that we have received a memo otherwise why will he tell you that.
I think that was another way of saying that we have received a memo otherwise why will he tell you that.
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chanduy9
07-03 02:43 PM
this is to track how many sent the flowers..so that by the end of the day we will know how many sent, no need to count in all the threads...
Pls send flowers..it may help us.
Pls send flowers..it may help us.
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ksrk
08-22 12:51 PM
Just like with individuals, we tend to place trust on organizations and instituitions based on their past behaviors / actions. It's obvious we have very little trust on USCIS.
I think there is some misunderstanding on the memo bein discussed.
I'm still betting USCIS has a (reasonably accurate--- give or take a thousand) tally of pending India / China EB2 I-485s that match the available GC visa numbers which have to be used up before Sep 30th. All they have to do is assign visa numbers before September 30th. It is quite possible for them to process the applications and assign the visa numbers at the end. Most likely approvals will come well into October.
Well, that's the way U and I would do it, so no visa numbers are wasted. It remains to be seen if the UscIs has more cooks than just U and I! ;-)
Ah, TGIF! ;)
I think there is some misunderstanding on the memo bein discussed.
I'm still betting USCIS has a (reasonably accurate--- give or take a thousand) tally of pending India / China EB2 I-485s that match the available GC visa numbers which have to be used up before Sep 30th. All they have to do is assign visa numbers before September 30th. It is quite possible for them to process the applications and assign the visa numbers at the end. Most likely approvals will come well into October.
Well, that's the way U and I would do it, so no visa numbers are wasted. It remains to be seen if the UscIs has more cooks than just U and I! ;-)
Ah, TGIF! ;)
bkarnik
03-09 05:33 PM
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americandesi
09-08 02:54 PM
Isn�t it odd that the timing of your rally coincides with the introduction of the Strive act?
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Can you let us know how you bought your scrawny a** into US?
I assume that you are an Italian. You people are a bunch of refugees who were let into US on humanitarian grounds way back in 1930�s and you people thanked the country back by unleashing notorious mobs like Al Capone. Just ask your grandfather about their past and he will tell you the filthy lives they endured in NY slums.
We came into this country in a more dignified and respectable way than you. We competed among the 65,000 H1B�s and were welcomed to work in the land of opportunities. Neither did we cling to refugee boats to enter US nor did we survive on meal tickets for a living. While we were shaping the Silicon Valley, you people were shaping the valley of drugs, smuggling, kidnapping, extortion and prostitution. All that you people can do is to eat, reproduce and talk trash.
Talking about numbers, there�s a difference between 10,000 pigs and one lion. And the fact is that the population of lions is always less than pigs.
Now that you know the difference between high skilled workers and trash pickers, get the f*** out of here.
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Can you let us know how you bought your scrawny a** into US?
I assume that you are an Italian. You people are a bunch of refugees who were let into US on humanitarian grounds way back in 1930�s and you people thanked the country back by unleashing notorious mobs like Al Capone. Just ask your grandfather about their past and he will tell you the filthy lives they endured in NY slums.
We came into this country in a more dignified and respectable way than you. We competed among the 65,000 H1B�s and were welcomed to work in the land of opportunities. Neither did we cling to refugee boats to enter US nor did we survive on meal tickets for a living. While we were shaping the Silicon Valley, you people were shaping the valley of drugs, smuggling, kidnapping, extortion and prostitution. All that you people can do is to eat, reproduce and talk trash.
Talking about numbers, there�s a difference between 10,000 pigs and one lion. And the fact is that the population of lions is always less than pigs.
Now that you know the difference between high skilled workers and trash pickers, get the f*** out of here.
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amitjoey
12-19 01:55 PM
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dixie
04-24 10:38 PM
I am not the prototypical IV member in that I have only been on the H1-B visa since 6 months after graduating with my masters .. my company hasn't even started the GC process yet. So my interest in legal immigration reform is more from the perspective of someone who will enter the GC pipeline in the near future rather than one currently stuck in the BEC/retro mess.
I began working for my current company (a high-tech start-up) as an intern when I was still a student .. my work on a prototype VoIP solution for cellphones helped the company win a second round of venture funding .. and needless to say, created lots of jobs through company expansion. I am currently very well placed in my company and seem set for a good future with them.
However, seeing the plight of other, more senior talented EB folks here stuck in limbo, i am seriously re-considering my options .. I think its better to switch to a plan B now, rather than invest several years of time and emotional effort in my career here only for me to be stuck in legal and professional limbo. I have already applied for canadian permanent residency, and if the status quo continues, I will have little hesitation in moving there, to a company in my area of expertise. I assure you that several of my classmates are in the same boat as me. If the GC system is not fixed anytime soon, I am fairly sure the retro issue will disappear by itself in few years time .. coz there will be no more applicants left to be enticed by this american mirage.
I began working for my current company (a high-tech start-up) as an intern when I was still a student .. my work on a prototype VoIP solution for cellphones helped the company win a second round of venture funding .. and needless to say, created lots of jobs through company expansion. I am currently very well placed in my company and seem set for a good future with them.
However, seeing the plight of other, more senior talented EB folks here stuck in limbo, i am seriously re-considering my options .. I think its better to switch to a plan B now, rather than invest several years of time and emotional effort in my career here only for me to be stuck in legal and professional limbo. I have already applied for canadian permanent residency, and if the status quo continues, I will have little hesitation in moving there, to a company in my area of expertise. I assure you that several of my classmates are in the same boat as me. If the GC system is not fixed anytime soon, I am fairly sure the retro issue will disappear by itself in few years time .. coz there will be no more applicants left to be enticed by this american mirage.
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mvinayam
08-14 12:22 PM
Hi All,
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
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GCDream
12-19 10:34 AM
I just contributed $40.:)
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ns33
07-10 01:31 PM
yep..very few care about EB, its all EB2 these days, one of the reasons i am very close to giving up, difficult to convince people these days. I am guessing that most EB3 I's have simply given up or have been bulldozed aside. We know for a fact that there are thousands in a similar situation, but they don't seem/want or care to voice their opinions.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).
Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.
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needhelp!
11-16 05:50 PM
Lets do this for us and for those who will follow.
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HV000
08-11 10:51 AM
Ahhhh so close!!! Mine is EB2-I - March 2005!!
Has Oct bulletin traditionally gone forward than Sept bulletin. I feel very bad for EB3. Oct has to open up for EB3.
Has Oct bulletin traditionally gone forward than Sept bulletin. I feel very bad for EB3. Oct has to open up for EB3.
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gc28262
05-11 05:35 PM
Wah! What did you see anti immigrant in my post? Can you please elaborate?
Please answer my question. You will get the answer from your reply.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
Please answer my question. You will get the answer from your reply.
You have become a citizen. What is your vested interest in pursuing this divisive discussion ?
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radhagd
04-11 01:35 PM
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zoooom
07-17 07:23 PM
Thanks a lot to all members for being with us in this struggle. We have tasted our first big success this year. Credit goes to each and every IV member. We were all affected by the visa bulletin fiasco and this is our victory. This is a victory for all our members and we must rejoice.
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Thanks Pappu...Kudos to you and the whole team....
Man this Pappu name is funny :)
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Thanks Pappu...Kudos to you and the whole team....
Man this Pappu name is funny :)
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amsgc
05-30 11:32 PM
Hi,
Is there anybody here who's application reached USCIS on April 30 (lottery for advanced degree) and has received an approval/rejection notice, or had their application returned?
Have you been issued a receipt number?
Have your checks been deposited by the USCIS?
Please respond.
Thanks.
Is there anybody here who's application reached USCIS on April 30 (lottery for advanced degree) and has received an approval/rejection notice, or had their application returned?
Have you been issued a receipt number?
Have your checks been deposited by the USCIS?
Please respond.
Thanks.
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vparam
09-08 12:18 PM
Now that your faith is restored, I'm assuming we'll see you in DC? :)
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
I do not want to be involved in faith restored discussion.... I have been in IV for long enough to know about IV... and since i know IV considerbly well... that is the reason i put forward my question in this open forum... Since IV is open organization.... some might prefer it to be PM but i prefer it to be open discussion
jsb
08-27 10:33 AM
I dont know if i agree that ND will dictate approval. On there are several approvals with RD and ND in 2008. What explains that?
Since we are not there we can't know the whole process, but it is true that there is always some logic when it appears to be random. We just don't know that. And that logic is not always fair, as is the case in visa distributions.
Published processing dates can mean anything between two extremes (i) Everything filed before published date has been processed, (ii) Nothing after the published date has been processed. Most likely it is close to (i). Thus, if published processing date is Aug 30 '07, it does not mean that they have not looked at any case filed after this date. I believe cases are distributed in lots, not one at a time. And if someone takes his/her lot of 1000 cases for processing, and then goes on vacation for 30 days - the lot just waits at his/her desk. Therefore, even if published date is Aug 30'07, it is quite probable that Sept/Oct'07 cases, even later cases, may have been seen. Also, note that published dates are as of June 30, not current.
We don't know the whole story,but are trying to find some logic in what goes on. So, positive view is that if you will be Current in Sept hope for the best.
Since we are not there we can't know the whole process, but it is true that there is always some logic when it appears to be random. We just don't know that. And that logic is not always fair, as is the case in visa distributions.
Published processing dates can mean anything between two extremes (i) Everything filed before published date has been processed, (ii) Nothing after the published date has been processed. Most likely it is close to (i). Thus, if published processing date is Aug 30 '07, it does not mean that they have not looked at any case filed after this date. I believe cases are distributed in lots, not one at a time. And if someone takes his/her lot of 1000 cases for processing, and then goes on vacation for 30 days - the lot just waits at his/her desk. Therefore, even if published date is Aug 30'07, it is quite probable that Sept/Oct'07 cases, even later cases, may have been seen. Also, note that published dates are as of June 30, not current.
We don't know the whole story,but are trying to find some logic in what goes on. So, positive view is that if you will be Current in Sept hope for the best.
bsbawa10
08-21 06:58 PM
Someone gave me RED dot for my posting/interpretion of memo (as below). I don't care but some level of maturity is expected on public forums:
If at all this 'news' is true -this may be just something so-called internal matter. Best interpretion of this 'news' is: They may have assigned available visa#s to approvable petitions just as they did before 2nd July07 bulletin, where people kept getting approvals well into Oct07.
So, ALL THE BEST to lucky ones who are 'pre-adjudicated'. How else you can explain Sep VB, which is yet to start from 9/1.
Just sent you pm.
If at all this 'news' is true -this may be just something so-called internal matter. Best interpretion of this 'news' is: They may have assigned available visa#s to approvable petitions just as they did before 2nd July07 bulletin, where people kept getting approvals well into Oct07.
So, ALL THE BEST to lucky ones who are 'pre-adjudicated'. How else you can explain Sep VB, which is yet to start from 9/1.
Just sent you pm.
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