bugsbunny
12-08 01:08 PM
its unbelievable what attitude some have on here...many on here are anti-illegal immigration which is understandable...but how can you condone such inhumane treatment...we are not animals...illegals are economic refugees in a way
just cause most of us on here were blessed to come up in decent families who afforded our education...it doesnt give us a right to treat the less fortunate with no dignity...what a shame
always "treat others the way you want to be treated"
just cause most of us on here were blessed to come up in decent families who afforded our education...it doesnt give us a right to treat the less fortunate with no dignity...what a shame
always "treat others the way you want to be treated"
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sanju
02-26 09:04 PM
AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I HAVE EAD. EVERYONE BENEFITS FROM THIS AT SOME POINT OF THEIR GC PROCESS.
So you want this because EVERYONE will benefit from it, not "just" because you will benefit, right!!
Every man always has two reasons to do anything (1.) the right reason and, (2.) the real reason.
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So you want this because EVERYONE will benefit from it, not "just" because you will benefit, right!!
Every man always has two reasons to do anything (1.) the right reason and, (2.) the real reason.
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reedandbamboo
09-13 12:48 AM
Folks,
I edited the letter so please take a look at this version. Some of you'll have suggested I condense the letter to a series of questions alone - I think this is a good idea and will be more effective in capturing attention. I will prepare something in this format (but it will have to wait for the weekend).
For now, my intent with this letter is to ask that the ARBITRARY nature of the visa bulletin be put to an end. I am exhausted by the cycle of raised and dashed hopes when the visa bulletin moves forward and backward.
To those of you'll who brought up the issue of schisms between EB2 and EB3, please read paragraph two above. Let us correct this randomness before we tackle each of the issues that are making life so difficult for us. You could start by gathering your friends, co-workers and other EB3 applicants and put together your list of issues to be addressed along with solutions. My view is that if USCIS is incapable of taking care of the matter then we have to pitch in and suggest/prod/request/demand it of/from them.
Together we can do it!
And here's the letter:
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September xx, 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one nominally can check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of the extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future.
Thanking you,
I edited the letter so please take a look at this version. Some of you'll have suggested I condense the letter to a series of questions alone - I think this is a good idea and will be more effective in capturing attention. I will prepare something in this format (but it will have to wait for the weekend).
For now, my intent with this letter is to ask that the ARBITRARY nature of the visa bulletin be put to an end. I am exhausted by the cycle of raised and dashed hopes when the visa bulletin moves forward and backward.
To those of you'll who brought up the issue of schisms between EB2 and EB3, please read paragraph two above. Let us correct this randomness before we tackle each of the issues that are making life so difficult for us. You could start by gathering your friends, co-workers and other EB3 applicants and put together your list of issues to be addressed along with solutions. My view is that if USCIS is incapable of taking care of the matter then we have to pitch in and suggest/prod/request/demand it of/from them.
Together we can do it!
And here's the letter:
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September xx, 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration “services” provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS – a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us – “Case adjudication is based on receipt date” “No, we process applications based on notice date”, “Actually, it’s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.” !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their “service” centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America’s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service – once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one nominally can check one’s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled – we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of the extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future.
Thanking you,
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santb1975
11-25 11:31 PM
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waitnwatch
04-26 10:42 AM
I was only trying to help out. I am always there with my full support. I used to be involved in student politics and I very well understand the importance of organizational strategy and planning. Keep up the great work. It's obvious that you guys are on top of things and I absolutely defer to your judgement.;)
reedandbamboo
09-11 05:11 PM
Thanks for joining us .. I wonder about the rest of us applicants .. enough of complacency and politeness!
I will try to condense the letter and incorporate some of your questions later this evening.
Stick around!
I will try to condense the letter and incorporate some of your questions later this evening.
Stick around!
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sri1309
09-12 06:09 PM
Please do not try to thwart the campaign. We are trying to address a specific issue, which is about blocking approvals when dates are current, and for that, we are using this current fiasco as an example. The USCIS memo specifically talks about EB2 india, china applicants on hold. Since EB3 was listed as U, we cannot do anything about it. If both EB2 and EB3 were current, I would have given a call to both. There is no belittling out here. the Circumstances are like that.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
Guys,
Lets not strictly follow what USCIS did and did not do in memo. We are all seeing the entire drama for the last 3-4 years.
Every EB3 after a little more experience gets qualified into EB2. Cant the department understand this , which we all do. There is no order. Lets together fight for a common cause and not discrimiate between Eb2 or EB3.
Commonsense rule is , if you are allowing 10 H1s to be processed, then why are you processing only 2-3 Greencards. What abot the remaining 7 and why should they wait, even after 8 years???.
Spillover and quotas are all BS.
Lets raise our voice together and see if they follow some discipline.
Anyone more than 8-10 years of being in the US and who followed the rules with merit deserves citizenship. Lets voice together as a campaign and get it straight. Yes, I am in the US for 9 years now..
Sri.
EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.
Guys,
Lets not strictly follow what USCIS did and did not do in memo. We are all seeing the entire drama for the last 3-4 years.
Every EB3 after a little more experience gets qualified into EB2. Cant the department understand this , which we all do. There is no order. Lets together fight for a common cause and not discrimiate between Eb2 or EB3.
Commonsense rule is , if you are allowing 10 H1s to be processed, then why are you processing only 2-3 Greencards. What abot the remaining 7 and why should they wait, even after 8 years???.
Spillover and quotas are all BS.
Lets raise our voice together and see if they follow some discipline.
Anyone more than 8-10 years of being in the US and who followed the rules with merit deserves citizenship. Lets voice together as a campaign and get it straight. Yes, I am in the US for 9 years now..
Sri.
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akr_roy
07-21 11:30 AM
Hey EndlessWait, thanks for your input and assurance. Thats what my lawyer said but he also mentioned it depends on the adjudicating officer and to keep my fingers crossed.
I dont understand the element of discretion attributed to teh adjugating officer. Isnt the 180 days a LAW? Is it possible that an application is denied if its less than 180 days and the person has reentered multiple times?
I dont understand the element of discretion attributed to teh adjugating officer. Isnt the 180 days a LAW? Is it possible that an application is denied if its less than 180 days and the person has reentered multiple times?
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mbawa2574
08-28 05:05 PM
ok..looks like my Luck still didnt go to Dogs yet :D
By pure luck and fluke, I was able to get an Infopass appt for Sep 11
There was only one appt available for the entire month of sep 08 at Tampa office.
Hopefully I will know something concrete on EB-2 visa drainage system.LOL :)
Thanks for giving an insight.
By pure luck and fluke, I was able to get an Infopass appt for Sep 11
There was only one appt available for the entire month of sep 08 at Tampa office.
Hopefully I will know something concrete on EB-2 visa drainage system.LOL :)
Thanks for giving an insight.
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gcdesirer
08-20 01:55 PM
Does it say when they filed their 485?
Yes it does..
ID PD/ RD/ Approved Date
kalikart -- 11/26/03 : 5/1/08 : 8/19/09
Yes it does..
ID PD/ RD/ Approved Date
kalikart -- 11/26/03 : 5/1/08 : 8/19/09
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americandesi
09-08 02:54 PM
Isn�t it odd that the timing of your rally coincides with the introduction of the Strive act?
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Can you let us know how you bought your scrawny a** into US?
I assume that you are an Italian. You people are a bunch of refugees who were let into US on humanitarian grounds way back in 1930�s and you people thanked the country back by unleashing notorious mobs like Al Capone. Just ask your grandfather about their past and he will tell you the filthy lives they endured in NY slums.
We came into this country in a more dignified and respectable way than you. We competed among the 65,000 H1B�s and were welcomed to work in the land of opportunities. Neither did we cling to refugee boats to enter US nor did we survive on meal tickets for a living. While we were shaping the Silicon Valley, you people were shaping the valley of drugs, smuggling, kidnapping, extortion and prostitution. All that you people can do is to eat, reproduce and talk trash.
Talking about numbers, there�s a difference between 10,000 pigs and one lion. And the fact is that the population of lions is always less than pigs.
Now that you know the difference between high skilled workers and trash pickers, get the f*** out of here.
Granted you scored a point when you were allowed to file for employment authorization this July. If your one rally worked, do you really think other rallies will work too? The world of politics is driven by numbers; you do not have enough numbers to get any lawmaker interested. So wake up Macacas, admit it, you all are bunch of losers.
So far as the skills are concerned, you have been harping on the theme that you are highly skilled? If the definition of highly skilled is a mere undergrad degrees then 75% of Adult Americans are highly skilled. I bet not even 5% of you have PHDs and you call yourself highly skilled. Huhhh
And this for the leadership of your organization: You are wasting your time. If you are so desperate to get green cards contact me. We will see what we can do� One thing I believe though is this country needs people with leadership skills and not so called "Highly Skilled". So I will be more than happy to work with you. I am sure you have my e-mail address. At the least, I can help make the process faster for you, if so called visa numbers are available.
Can you let us know how you bought your scrawny a** into US?
I assume that you are an Italian. You people are a bunch of refugees who were let into US on humanitarian grounds way back in 1930�s and you people thanked the country back by unleashing notorious mobs like Al Capone. Just ask your grandfather about their past and he will tell you the filthy lives they endured in NY slums.
We came into this country in a more dignified and respectable way than you. We competed among the 65,000 H1B�s and were welcomed to work in the land of opportunities. Neither did we cling to refugee boats to enter US nor did we survive on meal tickets for a living. While we were shaping the Silicon Valley, you people were shaping the valley of drugs, smuggling, kidnapping, extortion and prostitution. All that you people can do is to eat, reproduce and talk trash.
Talking about numbers, there�s a difference between 10,000 pigs and one lion. And the fact is that the population of lions is always less than pigs.
Now that you know the difference between high skilled workers and trash pickers, get the f*** out of here.
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lovenil
04-11 09:43 AM
Now as it is known that Masters Quota for H-1B is still open and there is no need for lottery.
Would USCIS honor , Premium Processing for those cases?
anyone has idea?
Would USCIS honor , Premium Processing for those cases?
anyone has idea?
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minimalist
04-14 02:00 PM
The labor substitution was meant to have the employer not lose his place in the queue. However people started abusing it and that was closed.
So if any, please focus your energy on recapture.
Well, you can find many similar questions in life.
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
So if any, please focus your energy on recapture.
Well, you can find many similar questions in life.
Labor substitution may be legal but it is unethical. When everything depends on when you join the queue, how can one cut the line?
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sam2006
09-08 02:32 PM
Guys lets just ignore the looser ( one of the 15% )
he is just FINE ( Freaked out Insecure Neurotic Emotional) hanging around in IV
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srikondoji
04-27 01:59 PM
I have an idea which could be patented and work on it.
I cannot do, because iam still on H1-B with labor pending.
Also, i have doled out too much money multiple times for GC and still hanging.
Thanks
sri
I cannot do, because iam still on H1-B with labor pending.
Also, i have doled out too much money multiple times for GC and still hanging.
Thanks
sri
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potatoeater
04-11 10:59 AM
I think I know a few with PD < 2002 still waiting....Its hard to give up when you have waited so long....
Of course there are many, may be thousands who are waiting since 2002 or earlier. But the logic I gave was that these guys must have already filed their their AOS petitions in the interim years.
My point was that, there is no way so many ancient labors (pre 2001) can get cleared last month and cause depletion of visa numbers. There is only one explanation. These labors were pre-approved.
Of course there are many, may be thousands who are waiting since 2002 or earlier. But the logic I gave was that these guys must have already filed their their AOS petitions in the interim years.
My point was that, there is no way so many ancient labors (pre 2001) can get cleared last month and cause depletion of visa numbers. There is only one explanation. These labors were pre-approved.
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sshekar
07-06 11:46 AM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EGEU0
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RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Services
Address: Director of USCIS
20 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington , DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez
Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away(I-485
Reversal). All the best for future
Employment Based Visa predictions.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
EGONZA0EGEU0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Services
Address: Director of USCIS
20 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington , DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez
Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away(I-485
Reversal). All the best for future
Employment Based Visa predictions.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
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sshekar
07-06 11:46 AM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EGEU0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Services
Address: Director of USCIS
20 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington , DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez
Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away(I-485
Reversal). All the best for future
Employment Based Visa predictions.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
EGONZA0EGEU0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Services
Address: Director of USCIS
20 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington , DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez
Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away(I-485
Reversal). All the best for future
Employment Based Visa predictions.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
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lc1978
03-06 01:50 PM
I'll contribute $ 50. Thanks and appreciate the effort.
shishya
08-11 11:39 AM
My PD is May 2006. I applied for I-485 in September 2008 when my date had become current. Subsequently got married and now waiting for my date to be current again so I could add my wife.
I had given hope and was not preparing for anything and hence have India trip planned (wife 11th Sept - 1st Nov and I'd go for the month of October).
Given the latest movement, now I think to be safe I should do all that is necessary that in case dates move forward enough for October, I should be able to add my wife to my application. If there are any comments/advice around this, please do let me know.
Also, what would be the things to get ready for her? I hope it'd be alrite that she will be in India while we apply for her I-485?
Thanks for all the advise!
I had given hope and was not preparing for anything and hence have India trip planned (wife 11th Sept - 1st Nov and I'd go for the month of October).
Given the latest movement, now I think to be safe I should do all that is necessary that in case dates move forward enough for October, I should be able to add my wife to my application. If there are any comments/advice around this, please do let me know.
Also, what would be the things to get ready for her? I hope it'd be alrite that she will be in India while we apply for her I-485?
Thanks for all the advise!
ilikekilo
04-13 08:27 PM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
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